tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post4417354650722567742..comments2024-02-20T22:17:21.542-08:00Comments on Will Finn Blog: Lynching DELGO, or "The Internet is for Scorn"Will Finnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01297122976077620877noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-51196139108178466662009-01-12T13:16:00.000-08:002009-01-12T13:16:00.000-08:00PS. as a side note, I understand that most of the ...PS. as a side note, I understand that most of the people who worked on the film enjoyed the experience and did well financially for themselves.Jeremy Rowlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16660454328756283459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-15847307060943608002009-01-12T13:15:00.000-08:002009-01-12T13:15:00.000-08:00I haven't seen the film. I visited the studio in 2...I haven't seen the film. I visited the studio in 2004 with a group of fellow animation students, when the producers were claiming an intended spring 2005 release, to be the first CG film by an independent studio-- they obviously missed on both marks. At any rate, all of us left, grateful for the experience of seeing a working studio, but sort of shaking our heads at how absolutely lousy the film looked like it was going to be.<BR/><BR/>One of my professors was the first director of Delgo and eventually left to teach. He didn't talk much about why he left but he did seem to indicate that the executive producer was simply too nit-picky, the single biggest reason the film was released over three years late.<BR/><BR/>The film was written by a committee of 3 or 4 people, the lead of whom was promoted from their parent company's PR department and none of whom (to my knowledge) had any filmmaking background. While there have certainly been some fantastic films from completely unexpected sources, I don't think it boded well for Delgo from the start.Jeremy Rowlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16660454328756283459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-82367703723766340032008-12-31T07:00:00.000-08:002008-12-31T07:00:00.000-08:00I agree, the attitudes about Delgo are unfortunate...I agree, the attitudes about Delgo are unfortunate. While I think honest and direct criticism is welcomed to make the best film possible, what we have now is animation snobbery. Delgo might not be my taste either but I respect the process and effort of the crew. Though rather than independent features, I'd rather see more indy shorts that showcase a variety of styles. It might not be as commercial viable as a feature but with the app downloads for the iphone(and clones), it may be possible for a talented group to make financial viable work. Here's hoping...Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15219132148021714599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-47877589982611874252008-12-23T19:28:00.000-08:002008-12-23T19:28:00.000-08:00And cool blog you have hear I really enjoy visitin...And cool blog you have hear I really enjoy visiting!!!LampshadeManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02581194709626935976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-85201270865629018382008-12-23T19:27:00.000-08:002008-12-23T19:27:00.000-08:00The design of it is pretty bad, but I think the bi...The design of it is pretty bad, but I think the biggest problem is that I heard no advertisements for it. The irony is that it got the most coverage for it being the lowest grossing film of all time. I mean the film is not great but it is definately not the worst animated film all time and yet people see a mediocre film and see it gross almost no money and make the conclusion that it is the worst of all time. I would have to say it was largly because of marketing which I guess would be a lot of money for a independent film. Am I alone in this, did anyone hear about the movie before the bad publicity?<BR/><BR/>And for all those people that dislike animation because it's not "Pixar" quality, this film is at least an accomplishment of being independenly made and distributed out of Hollywood, no easy feat. I am reminded of a quote which I can't remember who said, and which I think goes "The forest would be very quiet if only the best birds sang."LampshadeManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02581194709626935976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-49205144210974533862008-12-18T17:31:00.000-08:002008-12-18T17:31:00.000-08:00So does this mean we won't see the sequel about hi...So does this mean we won't see the sequel about his twin brother Dildo?Thadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443425643665474645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-62108620366788847362008-12-18T08:31:00.000-08:002008-12-18T08:31:00.000-08:00oppo-- i sure agree they are ugly but they aren't ...oppo-- i sure agree they are ugly but they aren't even the ugliest things i've seen this year. every time i flip through an animation trade 'zine or licensing publication my senses reel with amazement at the ugly stuff out there.<BR/><BR/>in addition, i grew up in the 1970's. the dark ages of ugly if ever there was one. <BR/><BR/>BARNEY THE DINOSAUR (though not technically animated) is still is hands down the ugliest character design I have ever seen. it gives Mc Donald's old 'Grimmace' character something to look down on.Will Finnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01297122976077620877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-48958220861102363632008-12-18T07:18:00.000-08:002008-12-18T07:18:00.000-08:00Hi Will,I admit I do take pleasure in this film fa...Hi Will,<BR/><BR/>I admit I do take pleasure in this film failing. Why ? Because I think deserved to since it looked so ugly. I wish KUNG FU PANDA failed too. Maybe a failure of a major CGI film would force these producers to think of something new.However, I don't think I have to state the people who worked on this film hope that they got paid. I think that would be cruel if I hope that they didn't. <BR/><BR/>"As if our work on Bugs Bunny has caused all of the Friz Freling and Tex Avery Bugs cartoons to disappear!"<BR/><BR/>I blame the network for not having them on TV anymore, nothing you've done. ;)<BR/><BR/>"You know how many arguments I get into with toon fans about Dora The Explorer? People telling me it's terrible and needs to be stopped! I agree that the stories are juvenile, and the animation is stiff, but it's not made for me! It's for three-year old girls! And those girls LOVE it! Of COURSE it's juvenile!"<BR/><BR/>I am not going to critize the subject matter because I don't watch the show but I think giving the character designs and animation could do with some improvement. Now that is criticism that can't be applied to any animated show. <BR/><BR/>"I'd rather work with a guy like that than a super-talented jerk any day."<BR/><BR/>I agree.Ricardo Cantoralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00518171797365794688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-38980830032801089332008-12-18T06:02:00.000-08:002008-12-18T06:02:00.000-08:00You're right, of course, in defending those who ma...You're right, of course, in defending those who made DELGO. I don't know much about the film and have no real interest in seeing another it. But I do know how hard it is to make a movie - even a short film nevermind a feature. I have to give credit to all involved - even the people who put up the money. None of it is easy to do. Even if we don't want to see it, is it necessary to kick it and laugh after it's already down?Michael Spornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018522723674960270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-50721069252520243002008-12-17T22:03:00.000-08:002008-12-17T22:03:00.000-08:00Nice to see a measured and thoughtful perspective ...Nice to see a measured and thoughtful perspective on Delgo. I certainly don't think I'll ever see it, but I wouldn't want to use the public forums to rip it to shreds. I almost felt like needed a shower after reading the comments on Cartoon Brew!tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16803774166906370964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-31337054912265064542008-12-17T21:49:00.000-08:002008-12-17T21:49:00.000-08:00Well said, Mr. Finn. I don't understand people in ...Well said, Mr. Finn. <BR/><BR/>I don't understand people in our industry (or those who hang around the fringes of it ) who seem to actually <I>take delight</I> in a film failing. <BR/><BR/>From what I've seen of it in the trailers Delgo looks like a poorly conceived , clumsily made film. Not my cup of tea at all. But , yeah ... the reaction of cynical glee at the film's failure is disheartening.<BR/><BR/>And you're right : every time an animated film goes down in flames like this it becomes that much more difficult for other independent studios (who may have some <I>good</I> ideas for films) to find investors . It hurts our whole industry.David https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728364431363413760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-43687568993939354122008-12-17T16:06:00.002-08:002008-12-17T16:06:00.002-08:00I think the affliction you write of is specific to...I think the affliction you write of is specific to cartoon fans. I've done cartoons for TV, movies, and comic books. Some succeeded more than others, but the weird thing about the negative reviews is this: It's not enough for the person to say they dislike the cartoon, the reviewer insists that the cartoon and its creators must be STOPPED! As if our work on Bugs Bunny has caused all of the Friz Freling and Tex Avery Bugs cartoons to disappear! Or our Batman story has completely ruined all Batman comics forever!<BR/><BR/>You know how many arguments I get into with toon fans about Dora The Explorer? People telling me it's terrible and needs to be stopped! I agree that the stories are juvenile, and the animation is stiff, but it's not made for me! It's for three-year old girls! And those girls LOVE it! Of COURSE it's juvenile!<BR/><BR/>The advice frequently offered creative people is "Work for yourself". I think that's lousy advice for cartoonists over a certain age. Do you we really need a cartoon for forty-plus year old men like me? I try to work for my audience. If I'm writing a Disney show for little kids, I try to remember what I liked when I was little. My peers are usually trying to sneak in dirty jokes. Why? for the grown up losers watching the Disney Channel?<BR/><BR/>On many of the Hollywood cartoons I've worked on, the crew spend all their time grumbling about how much they hate the product they're working on. Isn't that the time to try to make it good? Too many cartoonists spend all their time getting caught up in office politics and trying to sabotage each other's work instead of trying to do good cartoons.<BR/><BR/>Last point: You ever wonder how come a cartoonist or director you think is untalented keeps getting work? It's usually because he has a good attitude and can work with people! He makes his deadlines, does what his boss asks, and genuinely thinks the project is worthwhile! I'd rather work with a guy like that than a super-talented jerk any day.Kyle Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16312348996996151806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7128131605312127923.post-19406916738719844982008-12-17T15:16:00.000-08:002008-12-17T15:16:00.000-08:00I find myself snickering at how ugly the designs a...I find myself snickering at how ugly the designs are, but I do hope that the people who worked on it are well off.Austin Papageorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09228591957697880302noreply@blogger.com